Pregnant WITH PNE is ok, just don't have a vaginal birth!

[pianogal]

I just wanted to share this article with everyone.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/862k54455677612m/

It basically indicates that the pudendal nerve does not get any worse off during pregnancy, it only worsens through vaginal childbirth. So... pregnancy plus C section is a safe option for PNE women if you want to get pregnant.

I can vouch for that, as I got pregnant (a surprise) WHILE I had PNE (3 years pne, after my first of 2 failed pne release surgeries), and surprisingly, nothing got worse in my pudendal symptoms even though I went into it with PNE full blown. (typical pregnant symptoms of hurting feet, hips, back, etc occurred, and that was rough combined with PNE, but no increase in pudendal sitting pain happened.)

Advised by specialists, I had a planned C-section (no-contractions even!)

The C section was all super easy (easier than shoe shopping). I even lucked out with a small scar and was climbing on chairs to take pics of my baby 2 days post surgery. Actually, it was my first time with pain meds, and my PNE pain was less due to them, so I was a happy camper for 5 days after the C section.

So, if you are worried about this, rest your mind. If I can't figure out how to fix my pudendal symptoms soon, I might just get pregnant again before it's too late.

[pianogal]

oh, just wanted to add on, the case where this might not be OK would be say if you have a segmented uterus like A's Mommy...
her signature quoted says:
"History of uterine abnormality from birth (sub-septate bicornuate uterus) that was found a year AFTER I gave birth)
Daughter grew completely on left side of pelvis; born at 40 weeks
Multiple uterine surgeries to fix uterine adhesions, septum, and endo
Nerve symptoms started half way through pregnancy in 2008"

but I am guessing others could have their uterus checked out prior to getting pregnant to be on the safe side?? or if you'd already had one safe pregnancy like me you can have another with pne and be relatively ok.

[Celeste]

Yes! So true. Both Jessica and Sonnie from these forums went on to have their pregnancies after PNE surgery in Houston and Nantes, respectively. They had no pain during the pregnancies, no back issues from the ligaments being gone, c-sections, and healthy babies.

PNE does not affect fertility, and the pregnancy doesn't set off the nerve. The baby is quite high in the pelvis and is nowhere near the nerve until a vaginal birth gets underway.

This said, I just don't think it would be a good idea AT ALL to try a vaginal birth post op. I can attest to how hard it is to be a new mother while in PNE pain, and I think it's too big of a risk to take if you were able to get relief (which those other ladies did, too). But you know, with the medical file that any of us accumulates from trying to get to a PNE specialist, it shouldn't really be too hard to convince an OB-GYN that a c-section is a good thing.

Happy babies to all who want to go after them!

[A's Mommy]

oh, just wanted to add on, the case where this might not be OK would be say if you have a segmented uterus like A's Mommy...
her signature quoted says:
"History of uterine abnormality from birth (sub-septate bicornuate uterus) that was found a year AFTER I gave birth)
Daughter grew completely on left side of pelvis; born at 40 weeks
Multiple uterine surgeries to fix uterine adhesions, septum, and endo
Nerve symptoms started half way through pregnancy in 2008"

but I am guessing others could have their uterus checked out prior to getting pregnant to be on the safe side?? or if you'd already had one safe pregnancy like me you can have another with pne and be relatively ok.

Hey pianogal,

Yes, I would recommend ANYONE getting their uterus ultrasounded before pregnancy by a TRAINED tech who specifically can locate any uterine abnormalities. However, my case is probably so darn rare... I mean, you can't really get more crapped on "pelvically": messed up uterus, adhesions, Asherman's, endo, and now the lovely PNE.... I am totally not discounting any one else's case though... I'm just saying I need new "plumbing" down there LOL!!!

I would love to have another baby... would absolutely LOVE it... but I'm just not sure I could go through this again even WITH my uterus having been fixed up all nice and good (septum removed, adhesions removed). I will just go one step at a time and try and get well first. I'm only 30 so if God wants us to have more children, He will make it happen.

First things first, gotta get this PN UNTRAPPED!!!!

[pomegranate]

Thanks for the article! Dr. Shobieri has already told me to have a scheduled C-section should I get pregnant, and my OBGYN has no problem with that. No way would I attempt a vaginal delivery with my cranky pudendal nerve

[Judith]

A friend I met through PT had twins a year ago, C-section. Doing great! Just wanted to share a happy story.

Jude Judith

[pianogal]

Judith, did your friend have a PNE surgery prior to the pregnancy?
Celeste, thank you for naming Sonnie and Jessica. Are they easy to contact? I'd like to ask them about the pregnancy post operatively, and make sure they weren't having PN symptoms aggravated after their births.

Does anyone know of others who have had children post PNE surgeries (PNE surgeries that worked), had C sections, and not gotten PN again from the pregnancy? (or anyone who got worse with this plan?)

Dr. Hibner recommended no surgeries after his surgery (I think he's playing it ultra safe) but I don't want to wait till another baby before getting my nerve fixed. I'd rather fix the nerve, then have a baby, if it's possible to do safely.

Studies show that pregnancy does not affect the pudendal nerve, only childbirth does. See study: http://www.springerlink.com/content/862k54455677612m/

thanks everyone.

[afridinazneen]

Awesome!! It’s just what I need!! Thanks!............

[Anne smith]

Hi would be pregnant mums!
As I have mentioned before I came to this foram firstly for much needed personal support, but also to follow threw some research for my monthly journal for people like me who suffered ulcerative collitus( inflammatory bowel condition).
Interestingly there was a resent post from a young sufferer of (what is still known as phantom rectal pain) who after being delivered of here baby vaginaly , after a traumatic delivery found herself cured of her pain! Yes it sounds increadable? But it does make one think? What did the trauma of a vaginal birth move in the pelvis? There has got to be a mechanical simple reason? Oh to be so enlightened!
Anne smith