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Nerve blocks using many techniques, and medications - options discussed in detail
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ezer
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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river, pain relief is key and I think you are absolutely right to pursue the pain pump route.
I regret many things I did during my PN journey but there is one thing that I don't: Having switched from ineffective (for me at least) anti-convulsant types of drugs to opioids. Opioids offered me decent pain relief and even if it was a bit hard to taper off, it was worth it.
2002 PN pain started following a fall on a wet marble floor
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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I certainly am looking forward to discontinuing the 3,000 mg.of gabapentine. I am back on a small dose of opiots. It does help some. Feels strange after being off of them for a year. It makes my heart smile that your pain is gone . Did you do a lot of exercising?
Surgery Jan.05 2011 TG with Dr Antalok. Dr.Chambi May of 2012 showed injury from a fall on back, 11 years ago. My piriformis muscle caused a large amount of fibrosis .My sciatic nerve was growing through the piriformis muscle which caused a bifid p.muscle. . Dr Chambi decompressed the sciatic,pudendal,pfcn ,and peroneal nerves. I hope to have a nuerostimulator put in to help with the sciatic pain that never goes away. Most days are better with the pudendal if I do not sit at all.
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I mostly walked. 3-4 miles/day 4 times a week. I started in mid 2013 but then I had a tough time doing it when I was tapering off Suboxone. I restarted as soon as I was over the post-withdrawal period. It helped also mentally.
2002 PN pain started following a fall on a wet marble floor
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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It has been very difficult to walk as much as I did previously. My balance is off. I walked an hour a day no matter what the weather here in Mn. I am determined to get back to it. Did you walk no matter what your pain level was? I lost my sweet spaniel I walked with, It saddened me so I have a hard time getting back . The pain is worse now ,which also makes it difficult. I have work to do. I had a total knee replacement ,and the muscles are still weak in that leg..
Surgery Jan.05 2011 TG with Dr Antalok. Dr.Chambi May of 2012 showed injury from a fall on back, 11 years ago. My piriformis muscle caused a large amount of fibrosis .My sciatic nerve was growing through the piriformis muscle which caused a bifid p.muscle. . Dr Chambi decompressed the sciatic,pudendal,pfcn ,and peroneal nerves. I hope to have a nuerostimulator put in to help with the sciatic pain that never goes away. Most days are better with the pudendal if I do not sit at all.
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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Dear river,

I've been an intermittent walker, just started again recently hoping to lose some weight and lower BP before pending shoulder surgery. Fully understand about needing your dog for company. Lost my golden lab/retriever mix her a few years ago and haven't replaced her or the cat - miss that unconditional love and their intuition about when you're really hurting. Walking really increases the vulvar pain (friction) when it's acting up, but reduces the sacral and sometimes vaginal wall, so it's a toss-up. Overall it's good for me so I try to do it despite the pain - ice afterward.

Is the pump causing the balance issues (you're having leg numbness, right?). Trying to remember everyone's specifics. Maybe a treadmill or elliptical would be safer with the handles (and not having to treak home if the leg has a problem). I live in a rural canyon, have to get up a steep hill and climb to the house if I venture below my street, which also has a moderate hill. I just repeat the 1/4 mile loops below my house as tolerated; should borrow a neighbor's dog for inspiration. I'm so glad your pain is better; following your pump results with great interest, maybe someday I'll do a trial. I need to visit my aunts & cousins in MN, haven't seen them in years due to severe PN pain with travel. Hope each day is better than the one before!
Acute left vag/rectal pain 1999 lowering into chair. Dx 2006 with PNE/VV by PTs, Dr. Garcia, Weiss, Hibner. Many shots. PNMLT: left PN barely fuctional. Left TIG by Dr. Hibner 2007 (ST lig). 75% improved 1 year postop, slow decline. Pelvic floor Botox 2010. Left sacral SCS 2011 after good trial; removed 2012 due to NEW left S2 & rectal pain, bowel freq. Re-do left TIG by Dr. H & 5-day ketamine 2013; 1-1/2 years postop 70% improved. New post-SCS Sx are worse than PN Sx.
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river133 wrote:Violet, _what is your concern with the itching. I may be itching for a long time with the pump?
Just in case you might be allergic to the drugs. It's always important to report any side effects to your physician but if they aren't concerned about it that's good. Hopefully your body will adjust and you will be fine but if not, you might need to try other drugs.

Violet
PNE since 2002. Started from weightlifting. PNE surgery from Dr. Bautrant, Oct 2004. Pain now is usually a 0 and I can sit for hours on certain chairs. No longer take medication for PNE. Can work full time and do "The Firm" exercise program. 99% cured from PGAD. PNE surgery was right for me but it might not be for you. Do your research.
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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Hi everyone, it has been a crazy couple of weeks, my dad had his knee replaced with some complications, so the ladies of the house went up to Maine to visit and take some of the load off of my mom. So for right now it's just me and the dog.

I have been going to the pain clinic every 2-3 weeks for increases to the pump, usually it is a 20-25% jump. Still 100% bupivicane 10mg/ml with nothing else in the pump. I am up to 3mg a day now on the constant infusion settings. My first refill is on August 3rd, and I think we will stay with just bupivacaine.

Getting off the pain meds has been actually really easy, in two months I have been able to completely stop the (6) oxycodone 15mg and switch it to hydrocodone/APAP 10/325. I am taking 4 a day of those and 2 Mscontin 30mg a day from three initially.

I think the thing to emphasize here is that the pump is taking up the slack of the pain meds, and the goal is to not be in pain with as little meds as needed.

Using this chart I was at a opiate score of 180 units, of narcotic pain meds, a day. I am now down to 100 units with a lot less pain. that comes out to a 55% reduction sin two months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic

I reduce the pain meds by 10% a week. I am not trying to tough it out, if I am in pain I take something, if reduce the amount a step too far I go back up on the dosage.
And wait for another visit to the pain clinic before taking another step. This is a war not a battle and it is going to move slowly over many small victories, as long as I am heading in the right direction I am happy, and so is the pain clinic. According to them, I am coming off of the meds really fast, so I take that as good news.

As for sitting, I cant really tolerate it any more than before, but the symptoms are not as severe. Driving is a little more comfortable for short trips but I still can't do it every day.

The hypersensitivity is somewhat better and the flareups don't last as long anymore, also having the bolus button on the remote is a big help if the pain increases.

The only side effect of all of this is a occasional dead foot where I start to limp once in a while when I need to use the bolus a lot. But I will take that over the pain.

As always feel free to PM me or ask a question.

Thanks

Carl
PN by sedentary job and commute
Treated for IlioInguinal pain 2008-10
PT by Dr. Conway's team | 3 PN blocks @ Elliott in Manchester USA
TIR 2010 and TG by Dr. Conway in May of 2012 uncovered nerve damage, declared surgical failure in May of 2014
PT and bed rest continues
Employer refused accommodations in 8/13, now in the disability war.
Sacrial Stimulator 9/14 by Dr. Ross Boston MA
Anesthetic pain pump trial 3/16/15 by Dr. Ross
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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Hey Carl,

Sounds like you are taking a very common sense approach to cutting back on your meds slowly. It's good to hear you are making progress and I wish you all the best in trying to cut back on the oral medications even more. ;)

Violet
PNE since 2002. Started from weightlifting. PNE surgery from Dr. Bautrant, Oct 2004. Pain now is usually a 0 and I can sit for hours on certain chairs. No longer take medication for PNE. Can work full time and do "The Firm" exercise program. 99% cured from PGAD. PNE surgery was right for me but it might not be for you. Do your research.
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 4/24/15

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Dear Carl,

So pleased to see your ongoing progress; it gives me hope if I get to that point (some days I'm ready for a trial). Can I ask which brand/model pump was implanted?

It's great that the bupivicaine is letting you decrease narcotics. I'm trying to reduce mine a little due to upcoming unrelated surgery. Would love another 5-day ketamine infusion - fantastic pain reduction for 2 months (postop Dr. Hibner pain plus places that can't be fixed). Continued best wishes! quilter
Acute left vag/rectal pain 1999 lowering into chair. Dx 2006 with PNE/VV by PTs, Dr. Garcia, Weiss, Hibner. Many shots. PNMLT: left PN barely fuctional. Left TIG by Dr. Hibner 2007 (ST lig). 75% improved 1 year postop, slow decline. Pelvic floor Botox 2010. Left sacral SCS 2011 after good trial; removed 2012 due to NEW left S2 & rectal pain, bowel freq. Re-do left TIG by Dr. H & 5-day ketamine 2013; 1-1/2 years postop 70% improved. New post-SCS Sx are worse than PN Sx.
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Re: Surgery Complete! Pain pump placed at S2 update 6/16/15

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OK, just finished my one chore of the day! I never thought that one hour of work around the house a day would sound productive but it is better than being totally bed ridden. Mornings are best for me typically.

For an update when I was last with Dr. Ross he slowed down the rate of infusion for the bolus from 60 sec to 120. The change is supposed to keep the meds for traveling as far. That has made a big difference in the deadfoot feeling.

Using the bolus while laying down affect my rump area and around the inner thigh, but with the change it has had another effect that if I use the bolus several times in the night, 12PM and 4AM for example, I wake up with my left genitals seriously numb. This is actually good as it deadens the pain and helps with PGA. I don't want that feeling all of the time, but it is turning into a tool to use on bad days.
PN by sedentary job and commute
Treated for IlioInguinal pain 2008-10
PT by Dr. Conway's team | 3 PN blocks @ Elliott in Manchester USA
TIR 2010 and TG by Dr. Conway in May of 2012 uncovered nerve damage, declared surgical failure in May of 2014
PT and bed rest continues
Employer refused accommodations in 8/13, now in the disability war.
Sacrial Stimulator 9/14 by Dr. Ross Boston MA
Anesthetic pain pump trial 3/16/15 by Dr. Ross
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