Violet,
I like the document and I agree with our desire to keep it short but I think it should contain some references to studies published. We certainly do want to give the impression to the medical community that what we say is backed by reputable medical studies and is not just an opinion.
Charlie,
I also deplore the situation. Wikipedia is the prime source of information for most people nowadays that is assumed to be balanced and reading the PNE page as a new sufferer, I would just skip it and look for a more probable pathology.
Creating Massive Pelvic Pain Awareness Campaign
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2002 PN pain started following a fall on a wet marble floor
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
Re: Creating Massive Pelvic Pain Awareness Campaign
Excellent suggestion Ezer. What do you think we could take out to allow for some references? What do you think would be the best articles to reference?
Pianogal, I think pelvic surgery is already on the list. I added the word "depression". I'm not sure prolapse has been established as a cause of PN -- many women have prolapses without pudendal neuralgia. Have you seen anything about it in the literature?
Pianogal, I think pelvic surgery is already on the list. I added the word "depression". I'm not sure prolapse has been established as a cause of PN -- many women have prolapses without pudendal neuralgia. Have you seen anything about it in the literature?
PNE since 2002. Started from weightlifting. PNE surgery from Dr. Bautrant, Oct 2004. Pain now is usually a 0 and I can sit for hours on certain chairs. No longer take medication for PNE. Can work full time and do "The Firm" exercise program. 99% cured from PGAD. PNE surgery was right for me but it might not be for you. Do your research.
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Violet,
The document looks great.... thanks and good work!!!
The document looks great.... thanks and good work!!!
Daughter grew completely on left side of pelvis
Multiple uterine surgeries to fix uterine adhesions, septum, and endo
Had all the conservative workups done, 3Tesla (Potter), recovering from L sided TG (Hibner) 11/10, Botox 6/11 failed, bilateral anterior PNE decompression (distal Alcock's/perineal branch), Aszmann, Vienna, 10/11; dx'd with CRPS Type 2, 12/11, Ketamine @ CCF 2/12, doing 75% better PRAISE JESUS!
http://fighting-pne.blogspot.com
http://www.thepelvicmessenger.org
Multiple uterine surgeries to fix uterine adhesions, septum, and endo
Had all the conservative workups done, 3Tesla (Potter), recovering from L sided TG (Hibner) 11/10, Botox 6/11 failed, bilateral anterior PNE decompression (distal Alcock's/perineal branch), Aszmann, Vienna, 10/11; dx'd with CRPS Type 2, 12/11, Ketamine @ CCF 2/12, doing 75% better PRAISE JESUS!
http://fighting-pne.blogspot.com
http://www.thepelvicmessenger.org
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Violet,
Ideally we should find references that are available online (even if it is available only through subscription). I was thinking for surgery we could reference the original paper from Prof.Robert. The new paper from Dr.Hibner gives a really good overview of the entire process. The Bautrant paper for the TIR surgery. On the conservative side, Dr.Weiss has some interesting material that he presented at several conferences.
For example:
Labat JJ, Robert R, Bensignor M, Buselin JM: Pudendal Canal Syndrome as a Cause of Vulvodynia and Its Treatment by Pudendal Nerve Decompression. Eur j Obstet Gynecol Reprod Biol. 80(2):215-20, October, 1998.
Bautrant E, de Bisschop E, et al: New Method for the Treatment of Pudendal Neuralgia. J Gynecol Obstet Biol Reprod (Paris), 32, 705-12, December, 2003.
Michael Hibner, MD, PhD, Nita Desai, MD, Loretta J. Robertson, PT, May Nour, MD, PhD, The Journal of Minimally invasive Gynecology Volume 17, Issue 2, Pages 148-153 (March 2010)
J.Weiss, MD, Pudendal Nerve Entrapment, presented at the International Pelvic Pain Society’s 10th Scientific Meeting on Chronic Pelvic Pain in Alberta, Canada, August 2003.
Ideally we should find references that are available online (even if it is available only through subscription). I was thinking for surgery we could reference the original paper from Prof.Robert. The new paper from Dr.Hibner gives a really good overview of the entire process. The Bautrant paper for the TIR surgery. On the conservative side, Dr.Weiss has some interesting material that he presented at several conferences.
For example:
Labat JJ, Robert R, Bensignor M, Buselin JM: Pudendal Canal Syndrome as a Cause of Vulvodynia and Its Treatment by Pudendal Nerve Decompression. Eur j Obstet Gynecol Reprod Biol. 80(2):215-20, October, 1998.
Bautrant E, de Bisschop E, et al: New Method for the Treatment of Pudendal Neuralgia. J Gynecol Obstet Biol Reprod (Paris), 32, 705-12, December, 2003.
Michael Hibner, MD, PhD, Nita Desai, MD, Loretta J. Robertson, PT, May Nour, MD, PhD, The Journal of Minimally invasive Gynecology Volume 17, Issue 2, Pages 148-153 (March 2010)
J.Weiss, MD, Pudendal Nerve Entrapment, presented at the International Pelvic Pain Society’s 10th Scientific Meeting on Chronic Pelvic Pain in Alberta, Canada, August 2003.
2002 PN pain started following a fall on a wet marble floor
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
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THIS IS GREAT!!!!!!
I am so thankful that itching is listed as a symptom. Was vulvar burning or knife stabbing pain listed? There may be enough room on that last line in symptoms to add w/o adding another line.



I am so thankful that itching is listed as a symptom. Was vulvar burning or knife stabbing pain listed? There may be enough room on that last line in symptoms to add w/o adding another line.
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Also if you make the margins on the sides smaller ( instead of the 1 1/2 inches they are printing off as you might be able to fit a little more info on it ( Ezer's med documentation Idea) W/o having to remove anything.
Great Job though I love it . I have printed 4 off already to take to our many appt.s this week. I am also goign to send it to the PED GYN we have been seeing.
Great Job though I love it . I have printed 4 off already to take to our many appt.s this week. I am also goign to send it to the PED GYN we have been seeing.
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The document is fabulous!
"loss of sensation". Maybe the latter can be taken out and substituted with the stabbing/pinching/pulling/twisting?
Thanks so much for all of your hard work!
Warm regards,
Karyn
Yes, please add knife-like stabbing pain, pinching/pulling/twisting". I noticed in the first paragraph you list "numbness" and then a little further down,mom wrote:Was vulvar burning or knife stabbing pain listed? There may be enough room on that last line in symptoms to add w/o adding another line.
"loss of sensation". Maybe the latter can be taken out and substituted with the stabbing/pinching/pulling/twisting?
Thanks so much for all of your hard work!

Warm regards,
Karyn
Ultra Sound in 03/08 showed severely retroverted, detaching uterus with mulitple fibroids and ovarian cysts.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
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I second that, please add pulling,twisting, stabbing, shocking
Thank you
Thank you
Daughter grew completely on left side of pelvis
Multiple uterine surgeries to fix uterine adhesions, septum, and endo
Had all the conservative workups done, 3Tesla (Potter), recovering from L sided TG (Hibner) 11/10, Botox 6/11 failed, bilateral anterior PNE decompression (distal Alcock's/perineal branch), Aszmann, Vienna, 10/11; dx'd with CRPS Type 2, 12/11, Ketamine @ CCF 2/12, doing 75% better PRAISE JESUS!
http://fighting-pne.blogspot.com
http://www.thepelvicmessenger.org
Multiple uterine surgeries to fix uterine adhesions, septum, and endo
Had all the conservative workups done, 3Tesla (Potter), recovering from L sided TG (Hibner) 11/10, Botox 6/11 failed, bilateral anterior PNE decompression (distal Alcock's/perineal branch), Aszmann, Vienna, 10/11; dx'd with CRPS Type 2, 12/11, Ketamine @ CCF 2/12, doing 75% better PRAISE JESUS!
http://fighting-pne.blogspot.com
http://www.thepelvicmessenger.org
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OK, guys. I'll make some revisions over the weekend. Do you think maybe we should go for a two-sided page? Or, maybe we could put the references on the back?
PNE since 2002. Started from weightlifting. PNE surgery from Dr. Bautrant, Oct 2004. Pain now is usually a 0 and I can sit for hours on certain chairs. No longer take medication for PNE. Can work full time and do "The Firm" exercise program. 99% cured from PGAD. PNE surgery was right for me but it might not be for you. Do your research.
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Hi Violet and Ezer,
Isn't the publication by Dr. bautrant a little out of date now since Dr.De Bischopp no more works along with Dr. Bautrant.Do we have any latest publication by Dr. Eric Bautrant.
Regards,
Ali
Isn't the publication by Dr. bautrant a little out of date now since Dr.De Bischopp no more works along with Dr. Bautrant.Do we have any latest publication by Dr. Eric Bautrant.
Regards,
Ali
Diagnosed for PNE by Dr. Jerome Weiss in June 2007.Started PT with Amy Stein in NYC.
PT for almost 3 years now without any results.
Pudendal Nerve blocks in August,2007 by Dr. Quesda left me with sitting pain.
Unilateral TIR approach with Dr. Bautrant on 18 Febuary,2010 with no major improvements and sitting is much worse.
MRI By Dr. Potter reveals nerve entrapment in the ST,AC and DN.
Dorsal Nerve Decompression surgery on April 8,2011
Redo surgery by Dr. Hibner on July 18,2011
PT for almost 3 years now without any results.
Pudendal Nerve blocks in August,2007 by Dr. Quesda left me with sitting pain.
Unilateral TIR approach with Dr. Bautrant on 18 Febuary,2010 with no major improvements and sitting is much worse.
MRI By Dr. Potter reveals nerve entrapment in the ST,AC and DN.
Dorsal Nerve Decompression surgery on April 8,2011
Redo surgery by Dr. Hibner on July 18,2011