Hey everyone. I'm trying to help a friend of mine get approval for a botox injection into certain pelvic floor muscles. She has Blue Cross insurance and they want to charge her for the botox specifically which, as we all know, is expensive.
Just wondering if there is anything specific that someone has had to go through to prove to their insurance company that this is not experimental and that it is commonly done. Sorry for my laziness in not just searching for it myself. I've only had 2 naps today covering 5 hours.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
Greg
Need help for friend getting botox approved
Need help for friend getting botox approved
Last edited by GregT on Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Had surgery in Nantes, France in 2001 with Professor Robert. I advocate physical therapy with PTs who specialize in the pelvic floor. I also advocate injections to help diagnose PN and I am in favor of having PN surgery to release the nerve when the diagnoses points to an entrapped nerve.
Re: New help for friend getting botox approved
Are people just not trying botox injections? I thought this was a very regular thing that Dr. Hibner did to many of his patients?
Had surgery in Nantes, France in 2001 with Professor Robert. I advocate physical therapy with PTs who specialize in the pelvic floor. I also advocate injections to help diagnose PN and I am in favor of having PN surgery to release the nerve when the diagnoses points to an entrapped nerve.
Re: Need help for friend getting botox approved
You might want to contact Hermajesty because at one time she worked to get approval for botox.
Medicare will cover botox for specific diagnosis and most insurance companies you can get them to pay if you use the Medicare argument. A lot, of it has to do with the codes that are used. I know with Obamacare there are a bunch of new codes so I'm not sure what would need to be in the appeal but should ask the doctors office what specific codes they would use. Below are some links that should be helpful.
https://www.botoxreimbursement.us/Resou ... elines.pdf
http://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/
http://www.botoxmedical.com/helpful-res ... print=true
http://webserver.anesthesiologynews.com ... &a_id=2520
Medicare will cover botox for specific diagnosis and most insurance companies you can get them to pay if you use the Medicare argument. A lot, of it has to do with the codes that are used. I know with Obamacare there are a bunch of new codes so I'm not sure what would need to be in the appeal but should ask the doctors office what specific codes they would use. Below are some links that should be helpful.
https://www.botoxreimbursement.us/Resou ... elines.pdf
http://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/
http://www.botoxmedical.com/helpful-res ... print=true
http://webserver.anesthesiologynews.com ... &a_id=2520
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
Re: Need help for friend getting botox approved
Hi Greg,
I had botox to the levitor ani pelvic floor muscles by mt colon rectal surgeon (prior to finding I actually had PNE). I have blue cross blue shield federal insurance and they charged the hospital the cost of the botox via preferred provider so my fight was just to get the hospital to stop trying to bill me. The insurance company wrote a separate letter restating what was said on the explanation of benefits sheet that I owed the provider nothing for the botox. The surgeon was the same however he never billed me (must have known it was part of the preferred provider expense). Not sure if this would be the case for Hibner but I do think he does it often but maybe he has the right info for insurance up front to get maybe pre approved, so the patient does not have to fight with insurance? Hopefully one of his patients can explain what they did or did not have to do?
Janet
I had botox to the levitor ani pelvic floor muscles by mt colon rectal surgeon (prior to finding I actually had PNE). I have blue cross blue shield federal insurance and they charged the hospital the cost of the botox via preferred provider so my fight was just to get the hospital to stop trying to bill me. The insurance company wrote a separate letter restating what was said on the explanation of benefits sheet that I owed the provider nothing for the botox. The surgeon was the same however he never billed me (must have known it was part of the preferred provider expense). Not sure if this would be the case for Hibner but I do think he does it often but maybe he has the right info for insurance up front to get maybe pre approved, so the patient does not have to fight with insurance? Hopefully one of his patients can explain what they did or did not have to do?
Janet
2007-08 pelvic muscles spasms treated by EGS. 6/27/10 sat too long on hard chair- spasms, EGS not work Botox help, cortisone shots in coccyx help, still pain, PT found PNE & sent me to Dr Marvel nerve blocks & MRN, TG left surgery 5/9/11. I have chronic bunion pain surgery at age 21. TG gave me back enough sitting to keep my job & join in some social activities. I wish the best to everyone! 2019 luck with orthotics from pedorthist & great PT allowing me to get off oxycodone.
Re: Need help for friend getting botox approved
Thanks two both of you, nyt and Janet.
Greg
Greg
Had surgery in Nantes, France in 2001 with Professor Robert. I advocate physical therapy with PTs who specialize in the pelvic floor. I also advocate injections to help diagnose PN and I am in favor of having PN surgery to release the nerve when the diagnoses points to an entrapped nerve.